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« Antwort #2400 am: 2. Juli 2020, 22:28:20 »
Verhandlungen vorzeitig abgebrochen: Läuft nicht
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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2401 am: 2. Juli 2020, 22:51:44 »
Passt doch 1A ins Bild, BoJo bekommt schon noch sein harten Brexit und Trump sein Handelsabkommen zur Wahl
An Rüdiger Hoffmann: Der Faschist sagt immer, da ist der Faschist  (in Anlehnung an die Signatur des geschätzten MitAgenten Schnabelgroß)

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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2402 am: 2. Juli 2020, 23:23:30 »
Verhandlungen vorzeitig abgebrochen: Läuft nicht

Nächste Woche gehts in London weiter. Dann müssen die Briten Barnier entweder allein im Hotel sitzen lassen oder ausweisen, wenn sie keine Lust mehr haben.
 
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« Antwort #2403 am: 3. Juli 2020, 09:34:36 »
Nächste Woche gehts in London weiter. Dann müssen die Briten Barnier entweder allein im Hotel sitzen lassen oder ausweisen, wenn sie keine Lust mehr haben.

Sie sperren ihn für zwei Wochen in Quarantäne. Irgendwo auf den Äußeren Hebriden. Strengstes Kontaktverbot.

Halt, Moment ... ein Franzose in Schottland? Nicht gut, dann kocht irgendwie die Auld Alliance wieder hoch.
 
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« Antwort #2404 am: 3. Juli 2020, 11:45:46 »
Die blöde EU muss doch mal langsam einsehen, dass sie nachgeben muss, weil das sonst nichts wird!!!!!
soɥdʎsıs sǝp soɥʇʎɯ ɹǝp 'snɯɐɔ ʇɹǝqlɐ –
˙uǝllǝʇsɹoʌ uǝɥɔsuǝɯ uǝɥɔılʞɔülƃ uǝuıǝ slɐ soɥdʎsıs sun uǝssüɯ ɹıʍ ˙uǝllüɟnzsnɐ zɹǝɥuǝɥɔsuǝɯ uıǝ ƃɐɯɹǝʌ lǝɟdıƃ uǝƃǝƃ ɟdɯɐʞ ɹǝp

P.S.: Cantor became famous by proving it can't be done.
 
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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2405 am: 3. Juli 2020, 15:31:26 »
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Sie sperren ihn für zwei Wochen in Quarantäne. Irgendwo auf den Äußeren Hebriden. Strengstes Kontaktverbot.
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Das wäre für meine Frau und mich der absolute Traum  :love10:
(haben wir auch schon mal gemacht, ideal zur Abwendung eines drohenden Burnouts)
...kommt aber leider aufgrund der politischen Großwetterlage im UK plus Corona-Desaster bis auf weiteres nicht in Frage  :(
 
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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2406 am: 4. Juli 2020, 08:55:27 »
Das wäre für meine Frau und mich der absolute Traum 
Das war der Beweis.

Sie liest mit.
Fällt Dir nur Unsinn ein und immer,
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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2407 am: 4. Juli 2020, 11:38:38 »
Der Focus vermutet, das Bobbeles politisches Engagement in Hongkong bei den Chinesen wenig Zuspruch fände, wenn es um den Abschluß eines Handelsabkommens ginge.

https://www.focus.de/finanzen/boerse/konjunktur/zoff-mit-china-johnson-eroeffnet-zweite-front-dabei-hat-er-genug-probleme_id_12171468.html

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1190417.shtml

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The UK should understand that China is not the former Yugoslavia, and 2020 is not the 1990s when the West dominated the world order and was able to intervene in the Balkans issue and break up a sovereign country into pieces, so its plan to form an international alliance to interfere in China's national security legislation for Hong Kong will definitely see tough retaliation from China, said Chinese analysts.

In a joint letter to Prime Minister Boris Johnson, a cross-party group of seven former foreign secretaries says that the UK government "must be seen to lead the international response" as China pushes for the national security legislation for the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR), a former British colony which returned to China in 1997, BBC reported on Monday.

The former cabinet members expressed their concern at what they call China's "flagrant breach" of Sino-British agreements, according to BBC. They urged Johnson to set up an "international contact group" of allies to coordinate any joint action, similar to that set up in 1994 to try to end the conflicts in the former Yugoslavia.

Li Haidong, a professor at the Institute of International Relations of the China Foreign Affairs University, told the Global Times on Wednesday that these UK politicians are making a serious mistake, as it seems like they are still living in their old dream of a Great British Empire.

"China is much more powerful than the former Yugoslavia, and the West today is far weaker and less influential than it was in the 1990s, so if they use the approach for the Balkans in the 1990s to interfere in China's internal affairs, they will definitely receive disastrous and unbearable retaliation," he said.

Many Chinese web users also mocked the move by UK politicians. "After Brexit, London is getting more and more drunk. It seems like they are addicted to the illusion of the 'empire on which the sun never sets'," read one comment that received hundreds of likes on guancha.cn, a Chinese news website.

A Downing Street spokesman insisted that the UK government was already playing a leading role with international partners in urging China to "think again."

Li said that after Brexit, the UK has decided to stand closer with the US under the Trump administration, so this time those UK politicians wanted to show how important they are to their biggest ally. He added that the UK has many hidden interests in Hong Kong, including intelligence, finance, and business. It can even intervene in the HKSAR's jurisdiction as it has special influence over the city's legal system.

"If China finalized the national security legislation in the HKSAR, many of these hidden interests will disappear, and the UK and the US can no longer use Hong Kong to challenge and influence the Chinese mainland, and they will also be unable to conduct activities in the city to harm China's national security. This is why they are getting nervous," Li said.

A spokesperson from the Chinese Embassy to Britain said on Tuesday that China expresses grave concern about and strong opposition to such flagrant interference in Hong Kong affairs, which are China's internal affairs. 

"We urge the relevant UK politicians to accept the fact that Hong Kong is now part of China, observe the principle of noninterference in other country's internal affairs, and stop meddling in Hong Kong affairs, which are China's internal affairs, in any form," said the spokesperson.

UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said, "The UK would not turn a blind eye." He also said the new security legislation "very clearly violates" the autonomy that is guaranteed under Chinese law as well as that in the 1997 agreement, BBC reported on Monday.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian said on Wednesday, "China expresses strong dissatisfaction with this and firmly opposes it. We have made solemn representations to the British side."

The Sino-British Joint Declaration does not contain any words or clause that entrust the UK with any responsibility for Hong Kong after its return to China in 1997, and the UK has "no sovereignty, governance or supervision over the returned Hong Kong," Zhao said.

Therefore, the British side has no right to use the "Sino-British Joint Statement" to make irresponsible remarks on Hong Kong affairs and interfere in China's internal affairs, he remarked.

Raab confirmed that the UK will allow those who hold British National (Overseas) (BNO) passports to come to the UK and apply to study and work for an extendable 12-month period.

On this matter, the Chinese Embassy spokesperson said the UK had explicitly pledged in an MOU exchanged with China that BNO passport holders who are Chinese citizens residing in Hong Kong will not have the right of abode in the UK.

"If the UK is bent on changing this unilaterally, it will not only go against its own position and promise, but also violate international law and the basic norms governing international relations," the Chinese Embassy spokesperson said.

On the impact that the national security law will have on Hong Kong, Zhao said that the law only targeted very few acts that seriously endanger China's national security and will not affect Hong Kong's high degree of autonomy.

"Neither the rights and freedoms of Hong Kong residents nor the legitimate rights and interests of foreign investors in Hong Kong will be affected. The law is conducive to the better implementation of the 'one country, two systems' policy and to Hong Kong's prosperity and stability," Zhao noted.

Raab said the UK's plan to build an international alliance is aimed at forcing China to "step back from the brink."

Zhao responded, "We also advise the British side to step back from the brink, abandon its Cold War and colonial mentality, recognize and respect the fact that Hong Kong has returned to and is an SAR of China, abide by the basic principles of international law and international relations, and immediately stop interfering in Hong Kong affairs and China's internal affairs. Otherwise, the UK will lift the stone and hit its own feet."
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http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1190608.shtml

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Some British media outlets said the UK is prepared to sacrifice a free trade agreement with China to protect the people of Hong Kong.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government may sincerely believe they are battling for their values as they confront China over the national security law for the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, when in fact they are complicating a much-needed deal, threatening to inflict substantial damage on their own economy.

There are many things wrong with British politicians' Hong Kong-related remarks. For starters, the national security legislation is exclusively an internal Chinese affair. With neither sovereignty nor governance over Hong Kong, the UK has no right to interfere in China's internal affairs. The China-British joint declaration did not give the UK any moral or legal obligation to the people of Hong Kong after the city's return.

It is true that during the Golden Era of UK-China relations, both countries had high hopes for a bilateral free trade agreement, which would not only allow them to achieve a high level of economic and trade cooperation but would also meet their respective strategic needs. Yet that doesn't mean that China's willingness to settle a free trade deal can be exploited by the UK as a bargaining chip. It would be misguided and regrettable if the British government were to continue to confuse the trade deal with the Hong Kong issue.

One more thing British politicians may be mistaken about is which country needs the free trade agreement more. The coronavirus has hit the UK hard, and it is currently suffering its worst peacetime downturn in centuries, according to a Reuters poll. And the Brexit transition period will end on December 31, 2020, casting further shadow on the country's economy. Against such a backdrop, the nation needs to stabilize its economic ties with major trading partners, including China, to revive its economy, rather than interfering in China's internal affairs at the expense of the trade deal. British people are poised to lose more if such a deal falls apart.

Fundamentally speaking, the UK has no trump card regarding the Hong Kong affair, and it would be wrong if the Johnson government intends to play a bluffing game with China.

The premium value of UK-China relations has already been eroded by Brexit, and the UK should be more realistic about its position in the world. British politicians are good at talking big, but the global political arena is not Speakers' Corner. The UK needs to take a closer look at Germany's sobriety and rationale amid the US-China tussles, which are an example to learn from if the UK intends to be a European power and regain its position as a world power in the future.
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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2408 am: 5. Juli 2020, 18:31:38 »
Öffnung der Kneipen in England unter vorbildlicher Einhaltung der neuen Regularien:









 
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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2409 am: 5. Juli 2020, 19:04:37 »
ist hier ja nicht viel anders. Ein Teil der Bevölkerung verblödet zusehens, ist ignorant, uneinsichtig und dumm.
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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2410 am: 8. Juli 2020, 21:08:07 »
https://www.cash.ch/news/top-news/zahlen-milliarden-abschreibungen-bei-heidelbergcement-wegen-corona-und-brexit-1577510

Zitat
Milliarden-Abschreibungen bei HeidelbergCement wegen Corona und Brexit

Der Baustoffkonzern HeidelbergCement setzt im Zuge der Corona-Pandemie den Wert ihrer Besitztümer um 3,4 Milliarden Euro herab.

...

Zitat
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Zu zwei Drittel betreffen die Abschreibungen das Portfolio, das Heidelberg Cement 2007 durch den Kauf des britischen Baustoffherstellers Hanson bekommen hat. Ein Fünftel kommt durch den Zukauf von Italcementi im Jahr 2016.

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Die Briten fangen an, über die Folgen des Austrittsabkommens nachzudenken:

Zitat
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The environment secretary is seeking to cut a deal limiting trade friction after the Brexit transition.
George Eustice told a Lords scrutiny committee this was an issue for GB supermarkets supplying their NI stores. ...

"I guess the most difficult thing is perhaps around composite loads from supermarkets taking a lorry with multiple products to an individual store in Northern Ireland," Mr Eustice said.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-53320065


Nordirland und London streiten über die "Border Control Posts" in den nordirischen Häfen:

Zitat
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Last month, the chief vet in the NI Department of Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs said the European Commission was expecting details of the BCP plans by the end of June.
Robert Huey said: "That work has to be done, in effect, by 23 or 24 June in order for it to go through a Whitehall process."
Any further delays to BCPs is likely to alarm the EU which had been pressing the UK government to take practical steps to begin implementing the Northern Ireland part of the Brexit deal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-53268997

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New computer system

The port operators also expressed concern about the development of a new HMRC computer system which will be vital for the smooth flow of freight across the Irish Sea.
HMRC have promised the new goods vehicle movement system (GVMS) will be operating by 1 January.

Brian McGrath from Foyle Port said there was scepticism in the industry about that timetable.
"I don't think the track record of government in terms of that sort of technology implementation would give anybody a great deal of comfort," he said.
"It's very close to the deadline. I don't think too many people in the world industry think that's going to happen."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-53252131

Nachdem Bobbele seine Corona-tracing-app in die Tonne getreten hat, ist die Sorge nicht unbegründet.

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article210305833/Corona-Tracking-App-Deutschland-Mit-einem-Wort-brueskiert-der-Labour-Chef-Boris-Johnson.html
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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2411 am: 11. Juli 2020, 10:17:47 »
Weiß nicht, wovon der Meuthen nachts träumt. Für die ersten Einzelabkommen mit der Schweiz hat man vom Setzen des Anlasses (Abbruch der Beitrittsverhandlungen) bis zum Inkrafttreten zehn Jahre und nicht dreieinhalb Monate gebraucht, wie der behauptet. Und ob die am Jahresende noch existieren, wenn die Briten weg sind, weiß im Moment auch keiner.

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/unvermeidliche-stoerungen-betonharter-brexit-immer-wahrscheinlicher-die-eu-ruestet-sich-jetzt-fuer-den-notfall_id_12196397.html
 
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« Antwort #2412 am: 14. Juli 2020, 19:51:10 »
Zitat
Wie heißt es auf der Website von Boohoo? "Arbeite hart, habe Spaß – kein Drama."

Zum Thema Sozialstandards eines scheidenden EU-Mitgliedes:

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Wer auf jeden Fall nicht schläft, sind die Frauen und Männer, die in der englischen Stadt Leicester diese Billigmode für Boohoo und PrettyLittleThings produziert haben – während der Corona-Pandemie, trotz Lockdown, ohne gesundheitliche Vorsichtsmaßnahmen. Das berichtet die Aktionsgruppe Labour Behind the Labels, die die Zustände der Branche im Juni untersucht hat. Es dauerte nicht lange und Covid-19 grassierte in den Textilfabriken. Nachdem die Infektionswelle auf Personal in Supermärkten und Schulen übergriff, wurde über Leicester erneut ein Lockdown verhängt. Jetzt wird nach Schuldigen gesucht.

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https://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2020-07/textilfabriken-leicester-corona-lockdown-neuinfektionen-arbeitsbedingungen-sweat-shops
 
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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2413 am: 14. Juli 2020, 23:55:25 »
Ganz klar Kundschaft, zufriedene noch dazu:

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John Longworth is director general of pro-Brexit think tank the Centre for Brexit Policy. He was formerly director general of the British Chambers of Commerce and a Conservative MEP.

The referendum campaign was fought by Leavers above all else on the issue of sovereignty. Taking control of our laws, borders and money was central to why the people of Britain voted to leave the EU. Nothing could be clearer.

It is therefore a major scandal that the Remain establishment and the U.K. parliament did everything possible to undermine the will of the people and to make leaving as painful as could be. The Remainers will always be shamed for shackling the country to a poison pill: the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement. Alongside the declaration on a future relationship, the Withdrawal Agreement remains to contaminate our opportunities and our relations with the EU for decades to come — our future as a nation.

So toxic is the agreement that it would be quite legitimate in international law to repudiate the treaty, and that is exactly what the U.K. government should do if the EU refuses to adjust its implications.

Theresa May’s government clearly saw executing Brexit as an exercise in damage-limitation and did not embrace it as an opportunity, a new beginning. The government worked hand-in-glove with Remain elements of the British establishment and in cahoots with Brussels and foreign powers to come up with the infamous 2018 Chequers deal, the basis for the Withdrawal Agreement.

That allowed the small-minded Lilliputians to bind us like Gulliver to the mast of the sinking ship that is the EU. It also precipitated the resignations of David Davis and Boris Johnson, to their credit, from the May government.

On acquiring the top job following the disastrous European election results, Johnson and his government managed to release some of those bindings — most importantly from membership of the Customs Union. He also had the courage to call and win a general election in December 2019, resulting in an 80-seat majority in parliament and changing the terms of the debate.

But the timing and the politics were such that Johnson had no alternative but to accept the Withdrawal Agreement largely as it stood. In the end there was an exit door from the EU, but the handle was smeared with the EU diplomatic equivalent of Novichok.

According to new analysis from the Centre for Brexit Policy, our obligations during the transition period, our continued involvement in the European Investment Bank and other charges under the Brexit deal could have us paying in excess of £180 billion to the EU in the coming years. This is daylight robbery.

Part of that is because the Germans have for the first time agreed to major contributions to support Club Med countries through the coronavirus crisis using EU cohesion funds and via the European Investment Bank while Britain is still very much on the hook for the bill.

It is outrageous that Germany — a country that had its national debt written off after World War II, was given free money to regenerate and paid limited reparations for the most savage war it could wage — should now seek what amounts to reparations from the U.K. for having the audacity to want to break free of the Teutonic chains. Would France secede Corsica to Italy? Would Germany give back the Pomerania region to Sweden?

And the poison goes further than money. The price we must pay for retaining Northern Ireland is the continuation of EU control over Britain’s tax, regional and industrial policy through the mechanism of so-called state aid rules. Furthermore, we forego jurisdiction as this continues to be the domain of the European Court of Justice.

Even with a trade border down the Irish Sea, our analysis shows how the EU will leverage the Withdrawal Agreement to maintain power and control over our future prosperity. It must not be so.

What is most frightening is that this remains the status quo even if we leave with an Australia-style deal on World Trade Organization terms. The May administration were either fools or knaves to agree to this, and the Johnson government must repudiate it or be forever the government who left the troops on the beaches at Dunkirk.

Johnson is a scholar of Winston Churchill, but the rational choice in the summer of 1940 would have been to seek terms to end the war as Foreign Secretary Lord Halifax wanted rather than fight on for liberty.

The battle to leave the EU is coming to an end. The battle for Britain is just beginning — and we are about to find out if Johnson is more Churchill or Halifax.
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Re: Brrrrrr-exit
« Antwort #2414 am: 15. Juli 2020, 00:21:43 »
Ach wir bösen Deutschen mal wieder! Diesmal besteht unser Verbrechen darin, dass wir unseren Nachbarn in Südeuropa helfen wollen. Schlimm, wirklich schlimm diese Solidarität in Europa.
 
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